Tr: It was our
fifth anniversary as a band and we wanted to make another cd. I approached the band and asked that they let me be the
sole producer on this project and give me artistic freedom to do
with these songs what I thought was necessary. They agreed.
In late January, we started by recording the rhythm tracks. I
actually recorded John, Gary and Ratchet (and Ted on a few) live
JK:I don't particularly remember freezing to death but when
we watched some of the video from the first sessions, we were all
dressed like we were recording in a cabin in the Yukon.
Tr: The sub-zero weather kept everyone vibrant. Anyway,
we recorded seventeen songs and I added everything
else at Thunderchild. I knew it would take at least three months
or so but I don't think any of us realized it would take over
GF: There was one point during the live sessions where Tim
approached us and said that an entire session we did was flawed
and that we had to record those songs all over again. I almost
had a heart attack.
Tr: Yes, Gary grabbed his heart and fell back into his
chair. I thought he was going to die. The rest
of the band took it well. They just shrugged and said "Ok, let's
do it". I actually thought the opposite reactions would occur.
GF: Then after we redid those songs, Tim approached us the
next week and said the reason the original songs sounded so bad
was because a wire in his headphones wasn't functioning
Tr: Well you know what they say about a third heart
attack. Gary should be very careful. Actually I'm glad we
rerecorded those because they did turn out considerably better
than the ones in the first session so maybe having a faulty
headphone adaptor was a blessing.
JK: I came home from work one day
and played my answering machine and this message came up from
this irate woman claiming that Ratchet and I had her over and
that one of us was having a baby with her. I nearly had a heart attack. I
played that message six times trying to figure out who this was
and then Ratchet listened to it (who was living here at the time) and
he started freakin' . We just sat there and listened to
this thing. Neither one of us had any recollection of doing
anything like this woman described. We would've both had to have
been drunk out of our minds and we don't remember that being the
case, either, but would we have remembered being that drunk if
Then we played it to the band
and they were spooked about the whole thing. Rod had this
expression of awe and had me play it
over and over.
Tr: A week or so afterward, Rod
pulled me into the band room and told me that what he was about
to say couldn't leave the room. Then he proceeded to giggle and
told me the voice was from a woman named Terri who sat next to
him at work and that he put her up to it. He'd already told
Gary. It was several more days before the others were finally
let in on it. Terri did such a great job that we knew we had to
place it on the album somewhere. I figured it was one of the
pitfalls of playing the 'dating game' so that's where it ended
up. Terri attended the Conundrum release party, later.
JK: Yes, Rod really put one over on
Tr: Rod is sort of the glue that
holds this band together sometimes. He's been with us since the
beginning. He's doubled as sound man, photographer, boat
captain, critic, cheering section, roadie, you name it. He
actually did some of the backing vocals with me on "Burnt
Bridges". It was the first time I ever heard him sing and we were
impressed. He told us he's been singing to our songs the whole
time. We just couldn't hear him.
of went on a sabbatical recently.
JK: He went noodling